Audio interview of Fern and Bruce Kettner, Fern born 1952 and Bruce born 1954, by Dr. Justin Jaron Lewis at the interviewees' home in Winnipeg. 00:00 Interview begins with an introduction of the interviewer and interviewee, as well as location information; 00:29 Fern talks about her first meeting with Zalman who was visiting San Francisco around 1971. Fern continues to say she wrote him a letter asking if she could fly to Winnipeg to study with him and he wrote back and told her that it was not a good time for him and did not want anymore young, single women flying out to Winnipeg to study with him. He suggested she go to Israel instead; 02:25 Fern talks about her experience in Israel; 03:15 Bruce provides information about his religious background. He also ended up in Israel; 05:38 Fern talks about meeting Bruce and how he ended up being from Winnipeg. Bruce’s father taught at the University of Manitoba with Zalman; 07:00 Fern talks about how Zalman urged Fern and Bruce to get married. She continues to talk about her experiences meeting Zalman. She describes his hands and how fatherly they were. She also mentions he was a bigger man and showed much emotion; 09:30 Bruce and Fern state they got married in 1974 and moved to Winnipeg. Bruce talks about his experience taking the Psychology of Religion labs with Zalman; 13:30 Fern tells a story about a woman named Clara who would hide and wait for Zalman. Fern states he was always nice to Clara even though she was annoying to him; 15:50 Justin and Bruce talk about the classroom and labs from the Psychology of Religion course; 16:45 Fern talks about Zalman and Elana’s marriage and how Elana was also from San Francisco; 19:40 Fern talks about the time Zalman shared acid with Bruce and Fern. They continue to talk about how crazy the time was. They also talk about a Jewish retreat farm in Maine looking for community, spiritual seekers that they went to; 23:00 Fern talks about the brief separation between her and Bruce. They then got back together and joined a Christian group in Boston. She talks about the book Zalman wrote and how he autographed it for them. They continued to meet Zalman and note how supportive he was of other religions and Bruce and Fern’s switch from Judaism to Christianity; 26:51 Justin asks Fern and Bruce to talk more about the LSD and marijuana use in Winnipeg; 27:47 Bruce talks about how his parents liked Zalman after Justin asked if Bruce’s parents were worried about Bruce’s interactions with Zalman; 32:50 Interview cuts out.
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Audio interview of Fern and Bruce Kettner, Fern born 1952 and Bruce born 1954, by Dr. Justin Jaron Lewis at the interviewees' home in Winnipeg. 00:00 Interview begins with an introduction of the interviewer and interviewee, as well as location information; 00:29 Fern talks about her first meeting with Zalman who was visiting San Francisco around 1971. Fern continues to say she wrote him a letter asking if she could fly to Winnipeg to study with him and he wrote back and told her that it was not a good time for him and did not want anymore young, single women flying out to Winnipeg to study with him. He suggested she go to Israel instead; 02:25 Fern talks about her experience in Israel; 03:15 Bruce provides information about his religious background. He also ended up in Israel; 05:38 Fern talks about meeting Bruce and how he ended up being from Winnipeg. Bruce’s father taught at the University of Manitoba with Zalman; 07:00 Fern talks about how Zalman urged Fern and Bruce to get married. She continues to talk about her experiences meeting Zalman. She describes his hands and how fatherly they were. She also mentions he was a bigger man and showed much emotion; 09:30 Bruce and Fern state they got married in 1974 and moved to Winnipeg. Bruce talks about his experience taking the Psychology of Religion labs with Zalman; 13:30 Fern tells a story about a woman named Clara who would hide and wait for Zalman. Fern states he was always nice to Clara even though she was annoying to him; 15:50 Justin and Bruce talk about the classroom and labs from the Psychology of Religion course; 16:45 Fern talks about Zalman and Elana’s marriage and how Elana was also from San Francisco; 19:40 Fern talks about the time Zalman shared acid with Bruce and Fern. They continue to talk about how crazy the time was. They also talk about a Jewish retreat farm in Maine looking for community, spiritual seekers that they went to; 23:00 Fern talks about the brief separation between her and Bruce. They then got back together and joined a Christian group in Boston. She talks about the book Zalman wrote and how he autographed it for them. They continued to meet Zalman and note how supportive he was of other religions and Bruce and Fern’s switch from Judaism to Christianity; 26:51 Justin asks Fern and Bruce to talk more about the LSD and marijuana use in Winnipeg; 27:47 Bruce talks about how his parents liked Zalman after Justin asked if Bruce’s parents were worried about Bruce’s interactions with Zalman; 32:50 Interview cuts out.
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